Drama Unfolds on 'Summer House': Carl Confronts Lindsay about Cocaine Claims, Leading to a Surprising Shift towards a Pre-Wedding 'Alarm' tram

Lindsay Hubbard and Carl Radke’s disagreements keep coming.

On Thursday’s episode of Summer House, the then-engaged couple debriefed with their costars about what went down the night before on the way to the club after Lindsay, 37, told Carl, 39, she thought her female housemates would be mad that she took a Lyft with the guys instead of them. When Carl — who’s been sober since January 2021 after struggling with drugs and alcohol misuse for years — expressed to Lindsay that “it’s not that deep” and she’d be “fine,” Lindsay accused him of being “on cocaine.”

“He got really defensive and was like, cutting me off,” Lindsay told Danielle Olivera the following morning.

In a confessional interview, Lindsay denied that she actually thought Carl broke his sobriety the previous night.

“I 1,000 percent like, should have used a lot more delicate words in that moment,” Lindsay said. “But I’m, like, so taken aback by his aggressiveness in this moment and I’m trying to figure out, like, where it’s coming from. And he’s treating me in a way that is, like, startling. Like, and it’s very much Old Carl.”

Out by the pool, Carl thanked Kyle Cooke for being on his side.

"My biggest issue as a friend for years is she just never takes accountability,” Kyle, 41, to Carl about Lindsay.

Carl said he didn’t want to “blame it on her,” but Kyle thought "last night was unacceptable.” The Loverboy founder and CEO asked Carl if the way Lindsay acted freaked him out. “It scares me and it makes me sad more than anything," Carl responded.

The housemates then headed to the beach, where Carl and Danielle, 36, tossed around a football and caught up. Carl told her that “leaving Loverboy was, I think, the best thing for me.”

But Lindsay didn’t feel so sure.

“Since Carl quit Loverboy last November, we have been trying to figure out, like, what he’s into,” she said in a confessional. “He talks about at one point trying to start a podcast, so we got podcast equipment. He always talks about how he went to school for TV and film production, he talks about wanting to be a motivational speaker. And I was like, 'OK, well, I think there's a few things to figure out there first. But yes, OK.'"

The former publicist claimed that Carl sought professional guidance about his job options. “He hired a career coach for six months,” Lindsay continued. “Six months, $20,000 for this career coach. So yeah, like, it’s been a journey like trying to figure out who Carl wants to be when he grows up."

Before Lindsay and Carl could talk about his career trajectory, they sat down at the beach to put the cocaine accusations behind them.

"I didn’t mean to dismiss you last night. Or this morning. I love you,” Carl said to Lindsay.

Lindsay simply responded with “I know” and tried to explain why she said what she did the prior evening.

"In those moments, I'm not understanding where your, like, mood even came from last night,” she told Carl. “You're just, like, being very snappy and aggressive and rude and mean to me and I'm just like, What? What happened? Like, were you mad at me?"

Carl explained that “it hurts to hear” comments like, “Are you on drugs?”  

“It seemed like it came from a place where like, you really, really, really thought that I'm, like, lying to you and saying that I'm not sober, but you were not sober,” he told Lindsay.

She replied that she had “PTSD from Old Carl” and she was “asking every question in the book” to find out why she thought he'd resurfaced the night before.

Carl agreed that he, too, has feared the resurrection of Old Carl and suggested starting on a new foot. Lindsay agreed to that. 

After the weekend ended, Carl and Lindsay sat down in New York City to discuss where the Syracuse University grad envisioned his career heading.

"What do you want to do?” Lindsay asked Carl over mocktails. “Because you always, like, say what you want to do but there's not a lot of movement towards actually doing it."

Carl said "the alarm will sound at some point" for him. 

For Lindsay, it already had. “It’s, like, sounding for me,” she said. “And listen, if s--- hits the fan, I can always, like, reopen my PR firm and start operating again." 

Carl thought he’d have a better idea of his next steps by the end of the summer and tossed out the idea of opening a “sober sports bar.”

Lindsay vetoed that suggestion.

“I’m going to have to say no to that one,” she said. “Working in the hospitality industry my entire life, representing every single lounge, bar, club, hotel, restaurant, I’m telling you, I don’t want that for our future family.”  

Later, while appearing on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen, Lindsay told Andy, 55, that she "was always putting the priority of the family first" as a woman in her 30s "where we have a time clock against us."

As result, "there’s part of me that was maybe settling for, you know, the bigger picture as opposed to, you know, the long-term partnership," she said.

Lindsay also admitted to having "blinders on" when it came to noticing issues in her relationship with Carl and said she now sees validity in some of Danielle's arguments from season 7 when the Donne app co-founder suggested the couple had been moving too quickly.

"I don’t think we were moving too fast. We were best friends for eight years," Lindsay began. "I talked about this a lot but yeah, there’s ... Danielle saw something that I didn’t at the time. So, yes, I think that she was correct in whatever she saw."

Towards the end of the episode, Andy asked Lindsay a viewer question about whether she minded her friends and Carl’s mom still vacationing at the Mexico resort where she and Carl planned to say "I do" over their wedding weekend in November.

"It did not annoy me for friends to go," Lindsay said. "I think when your son was about to get married and I, you know … and then the mom going was just, I just felt like it was a little tasteless."